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 More options Oct 16 2007, 5:59 am
Newsgroups: rec.music.dementia
From: rob.bal...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 16:59:36 -0000
Local: Tues, Oct 16 2007 5:59 am
Subject: Re: Dear Dr. Demento...
On Oct 16, 12:01 am, D a v i d T a n n y <daveNOSPAMne...@cox.net>
wrote:

> Dear Dr. Demento.

> re: your letter on drdemento.com

> That is the DUMBEST thing I have ever heard read that was authorized by
> you. No wonder your loosing fans and listeners. Instead of addressing
> your probems and planning to do something about it, you just write up a
> batch of excuses about this and that. I'm not buying this demented
> Cool-aid for one minute.

> Scathing? Hello, Dr. Demento. You Need a Reality Checkup.

> So, we now know who the man behind the iron Talonian curtain is.

> Unfortunately, your explantion on your drdemento.com website continues
> to shoot blanks when faced with a reality check.

> Why did your advertisers flee? Haven't you hired a sales manager to get
> those advertisers to replace the ones that left? What about inviting
> luke ski, Sudden Death, Weird Al, Richard Cheese, and all of those other
> big names buy some advertisements that plug their albums and concert
> tours?

> Why aren't you in Los Angeles? Get your friggin' ass over to CBS or
> Clear Channel or Indie or whatever and iron out a way to get your show
> back on the friggin' airwaves. So CBS Radio likes to run 20 minutes of
> commercials an hour. So what? Produce a 120 minute show with nine breaks
> for stopsets and let stations add up to 60 minutes of commercials per
> hour. That's a good three-hour show. The way your show is produced with
> fewer minutes alloted for commercials per hour is very much in the way
> of getting a station to carry a show. Remember back in 1998 when KLSX
> dropped a segment so that it could run more commercials and annoying
> announcements for some sex talk show? You should have saw some signs
> that you need to listen to their needs.

> As for the issue of whether a station should share their advertisement
> revenue with a radio show host, it ain't gonna happen, pal! You're
> simply not entitled to any advertising revenue a radio station
> generates. The station is entitled to generating advertising revenue to
> pay for the operations of their station as well as to pay for talent and
> radio shows such as yours. All you do is supply the programming for a
> fee, then that's all. It's just like every syndicator that sells shows
> with no built-in ads. The station has the right to put a value on your
> services, and if yours is not worth their money, they simply won't hire
> you. Give them a reason to hire you.

> As for telling the radio stations affilliates to cut off their streams
> while your show is on, are you nucking futs? Your show is an
> advertisement of your services in itself, and you killed off your own
> free publicity machine in favor of, what's this you said, scathing
> online denunciations in r.m.d. and other places? This is simply PR gone
> bad. You're blowing it big time, Doc!

> As for your online paid streaming services, f--- this! F--- this!
> I ain't paying for bulls--t products from any bad business including
> yours. I'm not paying $2 for a crappy lo-fidelty stream of reruns of
> older shows I've heard an average of 27 times in the past 29 years I've
> been listening to the show. Chances are, when I download some Dr. D
> shows from a USENET binary newsgroup (thanks to all who do), I skip over
> the songs I already have or have no interest in and listen to the newer
> songs, then I seek them out on myspace for songs that might be on there
> for me to download in high quality 128kbps.

> I'm not joining your DOC club either. I have better plans to spend my
> money since I'm no longer ponying up $40 a month for some goddamn
> live365 service run by incompetent people who don't know how to make
> money and keep customers.  I could pay for and listen to older shows. I
> ask why if I've heard them so many times already, why repay again and
> again?  

> So, why do I need to listen to an entire show again if all I'm
> interested in are listening to individual songs instead of waiting for
> some song I'm not interested in to play out until something new and cool
> or new to me comes in.  Selling your own shows online as a stream is
> rather tedious at best. The world has changed into an on-demand basis.
> Everybody wants to hear a particular song now instead of waiting until
> after a block of other stuff played.

> The fump.com, for example, is a good business model, and it even
> features songs that should have gotten some fame by you by playing them,
> but haven't. You can stream a song, you can purchase a high quality
> individual song, you can buy an album, and you can even post your own
> links to your own songs (wish they would host the sideshow songs). This
> is a model you should be looking into, Doc.

> I for one have six of my stuff on the fump sideshow. Check them out.
> They're relevant, different, insightful, and unique, or check them out
> at my website davidtanny.com and hear what dementoids have been missing
> out on for almost ten years now. Some get it. Some don't. For those who
> don't get it, that shows that I'm cutting edge dementia because a lot of
> ideas for parodies and originals are coming from a point of view that is
> being ignored by the media: the ordinary money-challenged (I can't
> afford a studio or a staff as I'm all alone in this town)
> academically-challenged (just a community college grad) person.

> Does a song have to be good in order to be popular? No. Does a music
> programmer have to like the song that they play on the radio? No. What
> does matter? The public likes what is played whether the deejay or music
> programmer likes it or not. Do people know if a song is going to be good
> or bad just by looking at the title? Not until they hear it. Do people
> like to request what some radio people call bad songs? Yes. What is bad?
> It depends on one's humble opinion on whatever is good or bad to them.

> Is it too late to save the Dr. Demento Show? The way things are going,
> it probably is. No station is streaming the show. Krellan is out of the
> Dr. Demento business because of that (thanks Krellan for your hard
> work).

> I would have paid $2 for a decent download of a 24kbps Dr. Demento show
> back in 1997 just to sample the songs as that's been my interest for
> most of my life as the streamers back then were unreliable (remember
> those hiccups of the signal back in the day?) or out of reach in the
> days of dial-up.

> Now that cable broadband is the way, 128kbps is the way to go for $1 a
> show stream but it has to be made in a way that is employed on
> myspace.com where you can forward or reverse within the show so you can
> sample the song again or skip over some overplayed stuff.

> Dr. Demento, you need to stop the excuses on your website as your letter
> slams us for posting what you call "scathing online denunciations." I
> say they're called "consumer complaints." When I criticize AT&T for
> their bad service, it's a consumer complaint, not a scathing
> denunciation. The same goes for Talonian Productions' way of doing
> business; it's a consumer complaint.

> Also hampering the Dr. Demento Show is a rather small selection of new
> funny music. How about doing several shows a year featuring six full
> sets of all new demented music and comedy. When are you going to play
> some modern day comedians on your show? Why haven't you been playing any
> recent stuff from George Carlin (an editor can excise the $325,000 words
> out of the material)? I like the "Modern Man" comedy bit a lot, and you
> stiill won't play it?

> Hello, Dr. Demento. Time for a checkup. Play some golf and let me or
> somebody else create a playlist for you full of new and notable
> dementia, novelty, comedy, weird, and otherwise insane material and give
> a person a reason to spend $2 to sample a show. Preferably at least
> 96kbps, but keep the 24kbps for dial-up listeners, but charge the same
> anyway. Make them upgrade to cable to get a better sound.

> Now listnen. Dr. Demento. Take down your silly "note from Dr. Demento"
> propaganda. You apologize to the readers. You hire some qualified people
> to change your business model into one that fully embraces the Internet
> like I was forced to do back in February of 1997 as I had been doing
> since then. You allow radio stations to stream your show again for no
> additional fee. You hire a sales rep to get some businesses to advertise
> on your show. You remodel your website so that it's consumer friendly.
> You rethink how you sell indivudual shows. You start reselling song
> downloads like fump and itunes are doing.

> Dr. Demento, get yourself demented once again. Admit your mistakes
> instead of posting excuses. Do something now or else your show will
> simply fade away.

> signed

> david tanny

I don't mind The FuMP being used as a example in a discussion about
business models and online content.  Not all of us agree about these
things, and they're worth a public debate.

But David, everyone in the FuMP seems to agree that your tone in this
post is disrespectful to the point of being downright shitty.  If
you're writing as an angry fan, then it's way beyond what even a
"dissatisfied customer" has a right to express.  And if you're writing
to express professional advice, then you picked a completely
unprofessional way to do it.

If you wanted to make these points to Dr Demento, his email is not
hard to find.  By posting an open letter to the newsgroup, plugging
your site, etc. it looks a lot more like a play for attention than a
call for change.

Next time you want to write a public rant, leave us out of it.

Rob Balder
The Funny Music Project


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