>> In message <i2parn$2p...@news.eternal-september.org>, C. E. White >> <cewhi...@mindspring.com> writes >>> The Wake County NC Sheriff's Department has a Corvette they use. I have seen >>> it pull over a car. It was a drug seizure. I persoanlly think the Sheriff >>> should be voted out of office for keeping it. In theory it should have been >>> sold the Corvette and turned the money over to the local school system (NC >>> rule). Instead the Sheriff kept the Corvette and uses it as a play toy. I've >>> never like the idea that law enforcement can sieze things becasue of some >>> hypothetical connection to a crime, and this case is, at least in my mind, >>> especially disgusting. >> I suppose it's like that little town called "Bell?" You've got there >> where the chief honcho gets $788,000 per annum.
> Don't ya just love that? The schools cry out for money, they have to lay > off cops, and these morons pay themselves +$500,000 salaries (to be sure, > I don't know if Bell has had to lay anyone off, but Calif in general is in > real monetary trouble, and one city has lkaid off it's police force and is > 'outsourcing' to the Sheriff's dept and the neighboring town's police dept...)
> If these guys are Republicans, I'm becoming a Democrat...
A mini Wall Street Bankster type scam. Maybe the Wall Streeters will pick up on this and flock to small cities, this town has a population of 36K and average per-income is $24800. Where their is fleece to be had their will be fleecers. Where did the money come from? They sold bonds an increased property taxes. Easy credit, easy money, "Bell has sold six debt issues since 2003, according to last year’s annual report. The city’s $148 million in total debt amounts to 10 percent of the total assessed property value and $3,800 per resident, according to David Hitchcock, the director of state and municipal finance at the credit-rating firm Standard & Poor’s. The per-resident figure is “moderately high,” according to Hitchcock." http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-07-20/california-official-s-800-00... and let's rub salt into the wound, "California city manager's pension could top $30 million" http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE66K6BX20100721 Most city, state, fed jobs require the employee or elected person take a general purpose do no wrong, work for the best interest of the cause type "oath" sign it and have it on file. Someone that has the authority ought to be looking into that and use it to prosecute these shysters.
On Jul 27, 10:46 pm, Tegger <inva...@example.com> wrote:
> Plus one city is using the standard Crown Vic, but with a taxi-light on the > roof! It doesn't say "TAXI" though, it just has a big phone-number. You > need to get up close before you see that, in /very/ small letters above the > phone-number, it says "POLICE". And the phone-number is that of the local > cops.
My friend who drove taxi in Toronto years ago always speculated that a taxi-appearing cop car would be the hot ticket for giving out tickets. (Ever mix with a pack of taxis racing south on Yonge St. back to downtown at 2 AM to pick up more clubland fares? 90 km/h south of St. Clair--whee!)
On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 19:32:57 -0700, johninky wrote: > Around these parts about 10 years ago the local police used a white > Trans Am. Finally had to retire it because many women complained > about it not looking like a cop car.
> John wrote: >> On 7/27/2010 9:22 PM, Hachiroku ハチロク wrote: >>> Over the years I have seen the Ct State police use just about anything >>> for >>> an unmarked car, the usual Crown Vics, an occasional Chevy Impala of one >>> vintage or another. In the 80's they used Mustang 5.0s and Mazda MX6s for >>> undercover work.
>>> Imagine my surprise when on a work trip to Hartford today I see a car >>> pulled over just outside of Enfield, with another car behind it. I didn't >>> notice the first car because of the second car. Then I saw the blue >>> uniform writing a ticket...
>> I recall on 128 the MA state police used, of all things, a red ford >> panel van. Funniest thing to see a mustang pulled over with a red van >> behind it with a cop writing a ticket. The only give-away were the >> blues in the grill. They also had a blacked out Ford Probe GT.
>> Also, in Billings/southern Montana they had late 90s Z28 camaros. The >> speed limit at that time during the day was "reasonable and prudent" >> Apparently they needed the Z28s to enforce prudent.
> NY bought a bunch of Camaros and Mustangs as "pursuit" vehicles. I think > that there is only one left in the fleet now. Most of them were wrecked > by the guys who thought that they knew how to drive them at over 100 mph!!
Seattle PD had similar experiences with the SVO Mustangs about 20 years ago. I was repairing (and sometimes installing) 2-way gear and such and got to drive one of them around the block to the back shop lot and found it would hit 80+ in a block....
There was one wrecked one we had to pull the radios out of that kinda resembled the Oscar Meyer Weinermobile. Seattle's not as hilly as Frisco, but we do have a few goodies downtown. Think Steve McQueen and the "Bullit" movie; the accident investigators figure he hit the intersection of 4th Ave and Marion St at better than 100 mph uphill and flew over 250 feet horizontally and about 50 feet vertically (at the top of the arc) before coming down nose-first.
Speaking of Montana's "prudent", I grew up there. Back in the late 60's and early 70's "prudent" was up to the individual officer's judgment. I had a very heavy foot (still do)and learned that if they came after you with the lights blazing (even if there was no chance in hell the could catch you), slow down and pull over. They'd do a quick eval to see if you were impaired (but not a full fledged DUI-type test) and if your car looked to be in condition to handle the speed they clocked you at. If 'in their judgment' you and your car checked out OK, you might get the 5 minute lecture. If you started talking "car talk", that usually resulted in popping the hood open and BSing for a few minutes longer and do the "spit on the pipes" bonding ritual. No tickets that way.
Unless you pulled over or slowed way down, it would be a long chase. Unless you just couldn't see the gumball machine behind you because of the terrain, they'd be just a tad bit pissed at you when they finally got you pulled over if it took 10 miles to catch up to you... (and that was only if they had one of their "extreme" pursuit packages) I got one ticket written up for 148 mph on the radar as a souvenir, with VOIDED BY OFFICER across it, I wish I could find it.
Speaking of Montana, I lived in Bozeman,Montana in 1956.Beautiful Country (Wyoming too) up there, but it does get a mite chilly in the Winter time. Didn't Montana used to have no speed limit not many years ago? cuhulin
> In message <i2parn$2p...@news.eternal-september.org>, C. E. White > <cewhi...@mindspring.com> writes>The Wake County NC Sheriff's Department has a Corvette they use. I have seen > >it pull over a car. It was a drug seizure. I persoanlly think the Sheriff > >should be voted out of office for keeping it. In theory it should have been > >sold the Corvette and turned the money over to the local school system (NC > >rule). Instead the Sheriff kept the Corvette and uses it as a play toy. I've > >never like the idea that law enforcement can sieze things becasue of some > >hypothetical connection to a crime, and this case is, at least in my mind, > >especially disgusting.
> I suppose it's like that little town called "Bell?" You've got there > where the chief honcho gets $788,000 per annum. (Twice the Presidents > $400,000). Apparently they can set their own pay in closed session and > no one knows what they are paid apart from their pension company. Was > on our programme called "Newsnight" national news last night. > -- > Clive
On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 21:57:47 -0700, nobody > wrote: > I got one ticket written up for 148 mph on the radar as a souvenir, with > VOIDED BY OFFICER across it, I wish I could find it.
On Jul 30, 4:50 pm, Hachiroku ハチロク <Tru...@e86.GTS> wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 21:57:47 -0700, nobody > wrote: > > I got one ticket written up for 148 mph on the radar as a souvenir, with > > VOIDED BY OFFICER across it, I wish I could find it.
> YEEEHAAA! What was the car?
I'd be interested to know also. Back in the early 1970s i had a 66 425HP Corvette I once, and only once, took up to 140mph. Front end got real light around 135 and I have always believe the car would have gone airborne a little above 140 mph. Wasn't many cars back then that could break even 130 back then but once worked with a man in the steel mills in Ohio that got a ticket in VA for doinfg138 mph in his then new 68 Buick Gran Sport Rivera. The GS option came with 2 four barrels.
In message <fd846e7b-5efb-4fd7-9102-ac9959a74...@d17g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>, johninky <gfl...@kih.net> writes
>I'd be interested to know also. Back in the early 1970s i had a 66 >425HP Corvette I once, and only once, took up to 140mph. Front end >got real light around 135 and I have always believe the car would have >gone airborne a little above 140 mph. Wasn't many cars back then that >could break even 130 back then but once worked with a man in the steel >mills in Ohio that got a ticket in VA for doinfg138 mph in his then >new 68 Buick Gran Sport Rivera. The GS option came with 2 four >barrels.
Over here, you loose your licence for three to six months and a heavy fine if you are doing 1.5 times the limit. -- Clive
> On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 21:57:47 -0700, nobody> wrote:
>> I got one ticket written up for 148 mph on the radar as a souvenir, with >> VOIDED BY OFFICER across it, I wish I could find it. > YEEEHAAA! What was the car?
Clive <cl...@yewbank.demon.co.uk> wrote: >johninky <gfl...@kih.net> writes >>Back in the early 1970s i had a 66 >>425HP Corvette I once, and only once, took up to 140mph... >Over here, you loose your licence for three to six months and a heavy >fine if you are doing 1.5 times the limit.
On Usenet stories are inflated 1.5 times so not to worry...
Some of the cops around here in regular cop cars, it isn't like they are hiding, but they park just off the side of some streets and they catch those speeders and red light runners.They catch a lot of them too. cuhulin
On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 19:51:55 -0700, johninky wrote: > On Jul 30, 4:50 pm, Hachiroku ハチロク <Tru...@e86.GTS> wrote: >> On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 21:57:47 -0700, nobody > wrote: >> > I got one ticket written up for 148 mph on the radar as a souvenir, with >> > VOIDED BY OFFICER across it, I wish I could find it.
>> YEEEHAAA! What was the car?
> I'd be interested to know also. Back in the early 1970s i had a 66 > 425HP Corvette I once, and only once, took up to 140mph. Front end > got real light around 135 and I have always believe the car would have > gone airborne a little above 140 mph. Wasn't many cars back then that > could break even 130 back then but once worked with a man in the steel > mills in Ohio that got a ticket in VA for doinfg138 mph in his then > new 68 Buick Gran Sport Rivera. The GS option came with 2 four > barrels.
I almost got up to that...with a Corolla!!!
Back in 1986 I bought a Corolla GTS Twin Cam 1.6L with 10,000 miles on it. My wife's sisters all lived in Oshawa Ont (home of GM Canada) and we would go visit them in the summer.
Just outside Kingston I got left in the dust by a Volvo Bertone and a Prelude. I figured this was as good a time as any, so I pegged it. I got up to about 130 and, as you say, the front end got flighty. I had a little bit more to go, but decided not to push it, esp with wifey in the car, so I crawled back to 125 and stayed there until the other two got out of sight, and then went back to the absolute sluggish speed of 75...
> On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 19:51:55 -0700, johninky wrote:
>> On Jul 30, 4:50 pm, Hachiroku ハチロク<Tru...@e86.GTS> wrote: >>> On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 21:57:47 -0700, nobody> wrote: >>>> I got one ticket written up for 148 mph on the radar as a souvenir, with >>>> VOIDED BY OFFICER across it, I wish I could find it. >>> YEEEHAAA! What was the car? >> I'd be interested to know also. Back in the early 1970s i had a 66 >> 425HP Corvette I once, and only once, took up to 140mph. Front end >> got real light around 135 and I have always believe the car would have >> gone airborne a little above 140 mph. Wasn't many cars back then that >> could break even 130 back then but once worked with a man in the steel >> mills in Ohio that got a ticket in VA for doinfg138 mph in his then >> new 68 Buick Gran Sport Rivera. The GS option came with 2 four >> barrels.
> I almost got up to that...with a Corolla!!!
> Back in 1986 I bought a Corolla GTS Twin Cam 1.6L with 10,000 miles on it. > My wife's sisters all lived in Oshawa Ont (home of GM Canada) and we would > go visit them in the summer.
> Just outside Kingston I got left in the dust by a Volvo Bertone and a > Prelude. I figured this was as good a time as any, so I pegged it. I got > up to about 130 and, as you say, the front end got flighty. I had a > little bit more to go, but decided not to push it, esp with wifey in the > car, so I crawled back to 125 and stayed there until the other two got out > of sight, and then went back to the absolute sluggish speed of 75...
Yeah, I've done that ride. My dad used to live in Oshawa (and surprise, worked at GM) but after he moved to MA we'd always go back on shutdown every summer to see all his friends. My first long-distance drive was from MA to Oshawa in a 71 XR7 in record (for us) time. Almost run off the road outside Montreal (was it the Bruins T-shirt?) but man did I get crap for bringing a Mercury into a GM town.
On Jul 27, 8:22 pm, Hachiroku ハチロク <Tru...@e86.GTS> wrote:
> Over the years I have seen the Ct State police use just about anything for > an unmarked car, the usual Crown Vics, an occasional Chevy Impala of one > vintage or another. In the 80's they used Mustang 5.0s and Mazda MX6s for > undercover work.
> Imagine my surprise when on a work trip to Hartford today I see a car > pulled over just outside of Enfield, with another car behind it. I didn't > notice the first car because of the second car. Then I saw the blue > uniform writing a ticket...
Speaking of sneaky, here's a clip from Holland, I don't know what the "survellance" car looked like but the Porsche driver obviously knew someone was trailing him. Enjoy! Wade
> On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 21:57:47 -0700, nobody> wrote:
>> I got one ticket written up for 148 mph on the radar as a souvenir, with >> VOIDED BY OFFICER across it, I wish I could find it.
> YEEEHAAA! What was the car?
I think I did that about twice. 120-130 was more comfortable with this combo.
'65 Chevelle Malibu 4-door wagon.
The car was a spotless 'old couple car' with a 194CI six with bad lifters when I bought it. Absolutely gorgeous body; saddle bronze and just enough chrome to set off the smooth but straight lines.
283 punched out to 4" bore (usually called a 301 done that way but call it a 5L 302), almost Z28 specs:
340 HP bowtie 327 hi-rise dual-plane aluminum intake with a 450 CFM Carter "widebase/bigneck" AFB/AVS carb I worked over.
Long-tube headers (I went thru a couple of brands).
375HP 327 fuely 327 Vette cam, solid lifters.
And a bunch of Camaro underparts for high-speed handling, VelvetTouch semi-metallic brakes, Pirelli 225R-14 tires on 7" stock wheels with the old BlackJack covers. and the obligatory blue "cateye' inserts in the tailights. I paid $600 for it in 1969...
And (don't laugh) a "3 on the tree" with overdrive. OD on a manual trans with "stomp-it" kick-down is always good for the driving I do. The 30% ratio makes a better "passing gear" than most auto trans of the day. I did go to a Hurst on the floor ; but I don't remember if I had it at that time. 2nd gear/and OD was great for gravel country roads, 2-over would let you do about 70 easily.
That was a fairly slick body for those days.
But I'll have to admit that was under about perfect conditions; cool day, about a 20 MPH tailwind; and a 8 mile straightaway. (and the damned fan belt stayed on!)
IIRC, I was taccing about 6500 in 3-over at the time. 7 grand was what I felt was "redline".
Reality is that a 2-way flying mile mile on this car would probably be down in the mid-high 130 mph range.
I know it's not what you'd expect, but I built it for hi-speed, but the 375HP/327 cam was a mistake later corrected with a Crane hydraulic cam.
That combo cut me back to back to about 135 top-end; but it was a much more manageable beast then.
One of about 12 cars I wish I'd kept or could have bought back them... including a '50 Merc lead-slead mild custom. Oh well <[:{{
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